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Four top 10 round picks failed to sign in 2024 – a rarity

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Tyler Bell is the highest profile player from the 2024 draft to turn down big money for a chance later at even bigger money. Photo BA.

Ever since we entered the draft pool bonus era, players not signing who were drafted in the top 10 have been a rarity. Oddly in 2024, with the draft signing deadline having just passed on 7/31/24, we saw four players not sign.

This post is a recycled post that tries to answer the question: “does it ever pay off for a player not to sign?” And I’ve added in the 2024 players for tracking and analysis going forward.

Lets take a look. Here’s a summary of the 13 years of players who were drafted but did not sign from the top 10 rounds.  This analysis goes back to 2012, since that’s the beginning of the new draft rules.

  • 2024: 4
  • 2023: 1
  • 2022: 3
  • 2021: 3
  • 2020: 0 (covid 5-round draft)
  • 2019: 2
  • 2018: 4 (all 1st or supp-1st rounders)
  • 2017: 3
  • 2016: 2
  • 2015: 6
  • 2014: 6 (two of which were Nats picks: Andrew Suarez and Austin Byler in that ill-fated draft class, and one more who didn’t sign thanks to Houston’s screwing up the Brady Aiken deal and who was eventually granted free agency).
  • 2013: 8
  • 2012: 8

In total, 50 total players picked in the top 10 rounds in the last 13 drafts failed to sign, more than half in the first four years of the construct as teams/players/agents figured things out. The number of players drafted in the top 10 rounds varies slightly from year to year, but its roughly 300 players a year times 13 seasons, so at least 3,900 players picked in that time and probably more than 4,000 when you add in the dozens of supplemental and draft-compensation picks. So usually we see nearly 99% of the top 10 rounds of players sign.


Here’s the better question: did these players make major mistakes by NOT signing and taking the money?

Its a common refrain among pundits in the amateur baseball world (Keith Law in particular) that HS players should “take the money” if they’re drafted high enough. Certainly any first rounder would be a fool to turn away that kind of money, and mostly any prep player offered something in the upper 6 figure range should give serious consideration.  MLB contracts generally include college tuition … so even if you sign out of HS you still have 4 years fully paid for in case you wash out.  So instead of gambling on your health, or the fickleness of the baseball draft (where one bad start can cost you 30 spots in the draft and millions of dollars), take the cash when its offered.

But, don’t take our word for it.  Lets look at the empirical evidence of every player over past drafts who has forgone the cash to see if there’s any trends.

(a caveat here: I did not look at the dollar amounts in every case; this is basically draft round analysis.  Its possible that a 5th rounder in one year went in the 8th the next and got offered more money … but its quite rare with the new draft rules and bonus pools.  Everything changed with the new CBA that went into effect in 2012).


2024: 4 players failed to sign.

  • Tyler Bell, a prep SS from an IL HS. Drafted in 2nd-supp (#66 overall), slot value of $1.26M. Failed to come to terms with Tampa Bay. Based on some quick googling, it looks like Tampa offered him around $1.5M to sign but got other over-slot guys to sign before Bell would, which cost them the overage it likely would have taken. Bell was a top100 draft prospect with a commit to Kentucky and will be a draft-eligible sophomore in 2026. Tampa gets a replacement pick at exactly #67 in 2025.
  • Chris Levonas, a prep RHP from a NJ HS. Drafted one pick after Bell as a 2nd round Supp (#67). Slot value: $1.23M. He was a higher ranked prospect than Bell, and he and Milwaukee couldn’t come to terms. Per my google research, Milwaukee had $3M to offer him, but Levonas was a significant prospect and decided to honor his commitment to Wake Forest. Milwaukee pivoted and spread out that $3M to several later picks. Milwaukee gets a replacement pick at exactly #68 in 2025.
  • Ryan Prager, a college junior LHP from Texas A&M. Los Angeles picked him in the 3rd round with a slot value of $948k. Per reporting in the Athletic, Prager was pretty open with teams about being open to coming back to school, earning his degree, and seeing if he could help TAMU get back to the title game. No numbers were discussed, but it sounds like the Angels drafted him without understanding his requirements nor what it would take to sign. Prager goes back to school, while the Angels will get a comp pick after the 3rd round in 2025 (meaning they’ll lose a couple dozen spots in the draft).
  • Jaxon Jelkin, a college junior RHP from Houston. The Mets drafted him in the 9th round (slot value $196,700). There’s not a lot of information out there. MLB’s scouting report notes that he made 7 starts for Houston then blew out his UCL, requiring TJ. They also note he was “dismissed” from Nebraska’s two years ago and has “severe makeup concerns.” Reportedly NY didn’t even make him a contract offer, which means technically he’s a free agent right now with a year of college eligibility left but with a TJ surgery likely putting him out for the entire 2025 college season. It might make more sense for him to take a pro contract and rehab at a pro facility instead of college, but we’ll see. New York will not get a comp pick here.

Obviously it’s too early to tell for all these four players if they made the right decision. I’ll say this: if you’re a prep player who gets offered $3M … you made a mistake not taking it. If indeed Levonas got that offer. Is he guaranteed to be a 1st rounder in three years? Same to a lesser extent for Bell, who turned down $1.5M. Prager? He may be able to do better next year. Jelkin? He should have signed. So, my too early verdicts are: 3 mistakes, 1 may work out.


2023: 1: just one player out of the 314 players selected in the top 10 rounds failed to sign.

  • Caden Kendle, a Jr OF from UC-Irvine taken in the 10th round by St. Louis. He apparently agreed to a $175k bonus (around 10k over slot), but then had a change of heart and decided to go back to school for his senior season.

Verdict: He refused a $175k, played another year, got drafted in the 5th round of 2024 and signed an under-slot deal for $147k. So, he lost money, and a year of pro development. He may have gained a college degree though, so that’s good.


2022: Just three players failed to sign in the 2022 draft’s top 10 rounds.

  • Nolan McLean, a draft-eligible sophomore two-way player from Oklahoma State (RHP and 3B) who was picked by the Orioles at the top of the 3rd round. Baltimore found an issue in his medicals, so McLean went back to school. Slot bonus figure: $794k. Its unclear what bonus figure they agreed upon. McLean went back to school, and was picked again in the 3rd round in 2023, dropping 10 slots and signing for $747K with the Mets.
  • Brandon Sproat, a RHP sophomore from Florida, failed to sign with the Mets as a 3rd rounder (slot value $691k) for reasons unknown. He went back to school, then (amazingly) agreed to a re-draft by the Mets in 2023, who picked him in the 2nd round and signed him for $1.47M. Sproat also appears later on in this post because he refused to sign out of HS as well.
  • Brock Rodden, a 2B junior from Wichita State, failed to sign as a 10th rounder with Oakland (slot value: $151.3k). He went back to school, got drafted as a 5th rounder in 2023 and signed for $200k.

Verdict: McLean was not penalized for not signing, but it wasn’t really his choice since the team reneged. Sproat more than doubled his bonus offer from last year, and Rodden improved his by likely 25%. So, all three guys “worked out” in the end.


2021: 3 players did not sign from the top 10 rounds:

  • Kumar Rocker, RHP Vanderbilt, in a well publicized blow-up, the Mets drafted Rocker 10th overall and made a huge splash announcing a $6M over-slot bonus .. then ran into issues with his medicals, resulting in the two sides failing to agree on anything and the Mets passing on the Vanderbilt star altogether.  Rocker’s agent (ahem, “advisor”) Scott Boras of course refused to make his medicals available ahead of time, and of course claimed that there was no injury, but the subsequent findings vindicated the Met’s decision. Rocker had shoulder surgery in the fall of 2021, then pitched in Indy ball in 2022 before shockingly getting drafted by the Rangers with the 3rd overall pick in 2022. He signed for $5.2M, well below the slot value, and well below the $6M he agreed to in 2021, but he was still an upper 1st rounder. He pitched in the fall league, then made a handful of starts in 2023 before …. tearing his UCL and having Tommy John. So, Perhaps the Mets were right all along.
  • Jud Fabian, OF Florida; saw his draft stock fall from a possible top-5 pick all the way out of the first round.  But, he apparently had a $3M deal with Baltimore in the second, but those plans were foiled when Boston selected him at the beginning of the 2nd round.  Fabian stuck to his bonus demands, and the two sides could not reach an agreement.  Fabian went back to school and was a Comp-B pick in 2022, signing for $1.03M.
  • Alex Ulloa, prep SS from Texas failed to come to terms with Houston as a 4th round pick.  Ulloa bailed out of an Oklahoma State commitment, went to Yavapai College Juco … and went undrafted in 2022 altogether. Again in 2023, but he did get a commit to U of Miami for 2024, his junior season. Failed to get drafted in 2024 altogether, now at Florida International.

Verdict: Rocker couldn’t beat $6M but still got $5.2M as damaged goods, so its hard to say he made a bad decision (not that it was entirely his to make with the Mets pulling the offer).  Fabian lost out on $2M of bonus money, but we don’t know what money he turned down from Boston (odds are he lost out on the deal). Ulloa’s slot value was $492k in 2021; we don’t know what he was offered in 2021, but we went completely undrafted in 2022, so it seems safe to say he has lost out on money.



2020: in a shortened 5-round Covid-related draft, not one player picked in the 5 rounds failed to sign.


2019: 2 players did not sign from the top 10 rounds

  • Brandon Sproat, RHP Fla HS 7th/205 overall by Texas.  $222,100 slot value, which wasn’t enough to buy Sproat out of his commitment to Florida. As we’ve already seen, Sproat and signability was also an issue in 2022, but he did eventually sign in 2023 for a ton of money.
  • Wyatt Hendrie, C from Calif Juco 10th/312 overall by Chicago Cubs.  $142,200 slot value.  Cubs seemingly ran into slot issues with both 10th and 11th rounder, and Hendrie wouldn’t take under slot. Hendrie went undrafted in 2020’s shortened draft, but then was picked in the 7th in 2021 and signed for $177,500 out of San Diego State.

Verdict: both players ended up making money by not signing; Sproat a ton, Hendrie a little bit.


2018: 4 players did not sign

  • Carter Stewart, RHP Fla HS. 1st/8th overall. Atlanta didn’t like Physical, offered 40% of slot value ($1.9M); initially slated to Mississippi State.  Update: However, he did an about face, went to a Juco instead with the plan on re-entering the 2019 draft.  When he struggled in Juco and fell to a mid 2nd round projection … he attempted an end-around of the MLB draft rules and signed to play in japan, a situation I detailed in this space.  By 2021 he had graduated the Japan minor leagues into their majors, and his stats as of 2023 seem pretty solid (as a 23yr old he has a sub 2.00 ERA for his team Softbank).
  • Matt McLain: 2B Calif HS. 1st/25: Asked $3M, Arizona offered $2.6M didn’t budge, going to UCLA.  Update: picked 17th overall in the 2021 draft and signed for $4.63M. Huge gamble and huge win.
  • JT Ginn: RHP Miss HS. 1st/30th: LA dodgers offered $2.4M, asking $2.9M, going to Mississippi State.  Update: drafted 2nd round/52nd overall in 2020 draft, signed for $2.9M with the Mets in a well over-slot deal.  So two years later he got his asking number.
  • Gunnar Hoglund: LHP Fla HS. 1supp/36: Pittsburgh didn’t like physical, low-balled and he declined. going to Ole Miss.  2021; was projected as a top 10 pick, hurt his arm, had TJ but still got drafted 19th overall by Toronto and signed for $3.25M. Big win.

McLean drastically improved his stock, Ginn got what he wanted, and Hoglund (despite his injury) got paid.  I already detailed why I think Stewart’s deal is smart.

Verdict: All four made the right decision.


2017: 3 players did not sign

  • Drew Rasmussen, RHP, Oregon State, 1s/31st overall. Failed to sign with Tampa, who (I guess) didn’t like his medicals.  He was coming back from TJ and only had a few weeks of action before the draft. Update: Went 6th round in 2018 to Milwaukee.
  • Jack Conlon, RHP, Clements HS (Sugar Land, Texas). 4th round/128 overall. Failed to sign with Baltimore, went to Texas A&M.  Update: left TAMU, went to San Jacinto, then enrolled in Rice and sat out 2020.  However, he wasn’t on the 2021 roster, and its unclear where he’s playing at this point. He seems to be out of baseball at this point.
  • Jo Jo Booker, RHP, Miller HS (Brewton, Ala.). 5th round/145 overall. failed to sign with LA Angels, went to South Alabama.  Ended up playing 5 full seasons for South Alabama, was never drafted, posted an ERA north of 6.00 his 5th year, and is likely out of baseball.

Two players who ended up playing themselves out of any bonus dollars.  Rasmussen didn’t turn down the Rays as much as they refused to tender him a contract … they must have tendered him something because they got a comp pick in 2018 draft.  So he turned down 40% of first round money in 2017 to sign an under-slot deal in the 6th round of 2018 ($135k, just $10k more than the non-top 10 rounds minimum).  I’d say this was a bad move by the player unless Tampa flat out refused to pay a dollar.

Verdict: 1 worsened his draft position, 2 missed out on any draft money.

2016: 2 players did not sign

  • Nick Lodolo: 1S/41st overall; LHP from Damien HS in California. failed to sign with Pittsburgh, went to TCU instead, draft eligible in 2019.  In 2021, drafted 7th overall, signed for $5.43M.
  • Tyler Buffett: 7th/217 overall; RHP, failed to sign with Houston. returned to Oklahoma State, drafted in 6th round in 2017 and signed with Cincinnati

Lodolo went to school (an arm-shredder program in TCU even) and went from 41st overall to 7th overall, with probably 3x the bonus.  Furthermore, by 2021 he was one of the best pitching prospects in the game.  Meanwhile Buffett improved his draft position one round by going back to school.

Verdict: 1 drastically improved his draft pick and money, 1 improved his draft position one round.

2015: 6 guys did not sign.

  • Kyle Funkhouser: 1st/35th overall: RHP from Louisville, failed to sign with LA Dodgers, turning down an above-slot $2M. 4th rounder in 2016, signed with Detroit.
  • Brady Singer, 2nd/56th overall: RHP Florida HS. failed to sign with Toronto, went to Florida and was 1st rounder in 2018, signed with Kansas City
  • Jonathan Hughes, 2nd/68th overall: RHP Georgia HS. failed to sign with Baltimore, went to Georgia Tech and not even drafted in 2018…
  • Kyle Cody, 2nd/73rd overall: RHP U Kentucky. failed to sign with Minnesota, drafted in 6th round in 2016 and signed with Texas
  • Nicholas Shumpert, 7th/220th overall. SS Colorado HS. failed to sign with Detroit. Went to San Jacinto CC, drafted in 28th round 2016 by Atlanta and signed.
  • Kep Brown, 10th/311 overall. RF South Carolina HS, failed to sign with LA Dodgers. went to Juco, then to UNC-Wilmington, not drafted in 2018.

Funkhouser was the biggest “whoops” here; a poor spring took him from his pre-season top 10 draft position all the way out of the first round, but he still demanded upper 1st round money.  He didn’t get it … and then fell to the 4th round the next year.  That was a big fail.  Singer clearly improved on his 2nd round status by going to college.    Cody slipped from being a 2nd rounder to a 6th rounder.  The other three guys drastically fell on draft boards; one of them going from a 10th rounder to not even being drafted.

Verdict: 1 improved, 5 hurt draft stock

2014: 6 failed to sign

  • Brady Aiken: 1/1 overall, RHP from San Diego HS. failed to sign with Houston, went to IMG Academy in FL, drafted 1/17 by Cleveland
  • Andrew Suarez: 2nd/57 overall LHP from U-Miami, failed to sign with Washington. Drafted 2nd round/61st overall in 2015 by San Francisco
  • Trevor Megill; 3rd/104th overall RHP from Loyola Marymount. failed to sign with Boston, drafted 7th/207 in 2015 draft and signed with San Diego
  • Jacob Nix: 5th/136 RHP from Los Alomitos HS; couldn’t sign when Tampa lost bonus money, sued, FA, signed with San Diego
  • Zack Zehner: 7th/204 OF from Cal Poly, failed to sign with Toronto. Drafted 18th round 2015 and signed with NYY
  • Austin Byler, 9th/274 1B from nevada-Reno. failed to sign with Washington, drafted 11th round in 2015 and signed with Arizona

Aiken became quite the rarity; the first #1 overall baseball pick to fail to sign in 30  years.    But his lack of signing cascaded and cost the Astros both their 5th rounder Nix and another player later on thanks to the new draft rules on bonus pools; Nix ended up being declared a FA in a face-saving move by MLB so as not to admit that their new bonus cap circumvention rules were BS.  Aiken had no where to go but down from 1-1 so he obviously cost himself money.  The others all fell, if only slightly in Suarez’s case.

Verdict: 1 didn’t count, 5 lowered draft stock

2013: 8 failed to sign

  • Phil Bickford: 1/10 RHP California HS. Toronto failed to sign. went to Southern Nevada juco, drafted 1/18 by SF and signed.
  • Matt Krook 1s/35 LHP calif HS. Miami failed to sign, went to Oregon State, drafted 4th round by SF in 2016
  • Ben DeLuzio 3rd/80 SS from Fla HS. Miami failed to sign. Went to Florida State, played 4 years … undrafted out of college, NDFA with Arizona
  • Ben Holmes, 5th /151 LHP Oregon State. Philly failed to sign. went 9th round in 2014
  • Jason Monda 6th/181 OF Washington State. Philly failed to sign … then accused him of NCAA violations. he wasn’t drafted again and quit to go to Med school
  • Stephen Woods 6th/188 RHP NY HS: Tampa failed to sign, went to Suny-Albany, drafted 8th round 2016 by SF and signed
  • Dustin DeMuth 8th/230 3B from Indiana, Minnesota failed to sign, became 5th rounder in 2014 and signed with Milwaukee
  • Ross Kivett 10th/291 2B from kansas State. Cleveland failed to sign, became 6th rounder in 2014 and signed with Detroit

Bickford fell 8 slots year over  year but still fell.   DeMuth and Kivett both improved their stock.  The rest fell, drastically in some cases.

Verdict: 2 improved, 6 fell

2012: 8 failed to sign

  • Mark Appel 1/8 RHP Stanford by Pittsburgh. failed to sign, was 1/1 in 2013 with Houston
  • Teddy Stankiewicz 2/75 RHP from Texas Hs. failed to sign with Mets, went Juco, 2/45 in 2013 by Boston
  • Alec Rash, 2/95 by Philadelphia from IA HS. went to Missouri, 2015 drafted in 23rd round by Washington but still didn’t sign; quit baseball and started playing NCAA basketball
  • Kyle Twomey, 3/106 LHP Calif HS Oakland. Drafted 13th round 3 yrs later out of USC by Chicago Cubs.
  • Brandon Thomas 4/136 OF from Ga Tech; didn’t sign with Pittsburgh, drafted 8th round one year later and signed with NYY
  • Colin Poche 5/162 LHP texas h s. failed to sign with Baltimore, went to Dallas Baptist, undrafted Jr year, drafted 14th round 2016 by Arizona
  • Nick Halamandaris 8/251 1B Calif HS. failed to sign with Seattle, played 4 years at cal, undrafted jr and Sr year, NDFA with Seattle, played one season
  • L.J. Mazzilli 9/280 2B from UConn. 4th rounder in 2013 signed with NY Mets

Appel managed to improve from 8th overall to 1st overall.  Stankiewicz also improved his stock about a round’s worth.  Mazzilli improved from a 9th rounder to a 4th rounder.  The others all fell.

Verdict: 3 up, 5 down.


Summary: of the 50 players who failed to sign, passing judgement even on the players where its far too early to really tell:

  • 30 hurt their draft stock by failing to sign (15 HS, 15 coll)
  • 1 didn’t really count b/c of the Houston 2014 draft bonus shenanigans (Jacob Nix, HS)
  • 15 improved their draft stock/money
  • 4 from 2024 too early yet to tell.

So, 2 out of every 3 times a kid turns down the money they’re costing themselves in the long run. But, its also worth noting that a huge percentage of these players who declined to sign were at the very beginning of the new rules … in the last few years, the success rate of players has gone way up. I attribute it to players now understanding better the rules of the system.

Food for thought.

Written by Todd Boss

August 16th, 2024 at 1:06 pm

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  1. Fascinating stuff, Todd.

    I’m actually surprised the “success” rate is around 1 in 3, given the wild range of outcomes of players going to college. But maybe what’s most surprising is the number of major league players on this list. Just from a quick perusal, I see: Megill, Singer, Lodolo, Rasmussen, McLain, whom all have had pretty good major league careers, then probably a bunch more guys like Andrew Suarez, who reached the majors (a pretty major feat in itself) but who I’m not recognizing because they had an unnoteworthy career.

    Not sure what to make of that, but interesting to note.

    Will

    17 Aug 24 at 4:18 am

  2. Also, I’d be furious if I was a Mets fan reading that description of Jelkin. To draft a guy with that many red flags, and then not even make an offer shows a serious lack of due diligence or discord within the Mets’ scouting set up. If you draft a guy, it means you’re committed to paying him, injury/character concerns regardless.

    The number of Nats draft picks from the early years listed shows how little seriousness the Nats gave to the draft in these years. Real amateur stuff that showed in the decade of a lack of success.

    Will

    17 Aug 24 at 5:02 am

  3. The Nats not signing Aaron Crowe worked out well for them. They used the replacement pick in the next draft to take Drew Storen, who had a better career than Crow did.

    John C.

    18 Aug 24 at 8:41 pm

  4. JohnC: i’m still conflicted about Crow/Storen/Bowden and that whole mess. While its true Storen’s career > Crow’s career (4.7 bWAR vs 2.7 bWAR) Bowden still royally screwed up that draft by not doing his due diligence on Crow. Yes, he got a comp pick that he used on Storen, but Storen was a clear over-draft for that spot in 2010 (a college reliever who took an underslot deal). The nats knew they needed a player who would absolutely, 100% sign there instead of getting value for that #10 pick.

    that being said … Storen inarguably played a huge role in the Nats’ rise to prominence in the 2012-2016 range. He also played a role in another failing of this team; the constant obsession with layering him with FA closers who weren’t as good. At least the team seems to have gotten away from that dumb strategy.

    Todd Boss

    19 Aug 24 at 8:41 am

  5. By fWAR, it’s not close: Storen 4.4, Crow 0.0.

    And it wasn’t just that they had to draft a player that they knew would sign (or lose the #10 overall pick). They also had to draft someone they could sign for underslot so they could throw more money at Strasburg. Because of having the #1/#1 pick, I think that it’s quite likely that they would have drafted players they knew they could sign for under slot later in the draft even if they hadn’t had the comp pick.

    John C.

    19 Aug 24 at 1:07 pm

  6. John — there was bonus pool in that draft, so the only limit was willingness to spend. (Plus, potentially, any costs of going against a possible collusive agreement /de facto agreement with other owners about how to pay draftees).

    The risk of losing the pick was clearly enough to affect draft choice regardless.

    Matt

    19 Aug 24 at 1:31 pm

  7. Storen bonus: $1,600,000
    Trout bonus: $1,215,000

    Yeah, yeah, I know that nearly everyone else passed on him too, but I couldn’t resist. What a fantasy it would have been to have Trout and Harper coming up at the same time.

    That 2010 draft contained another infamous story of treatment of a high schooler who didn’t sign (and a year later went to the Nats): the Rangers not signing #14 pick Matt Purke. The more significant whiff of that first round was the Blue Jays not signing #37 pick James Paxton.

    KW

    19 Aug 24 at 7:07 pm

  8. Tampa Bay offered Tyler Bell a third of what the Nats gave Dickerson. Yes, Dickerson was a bit more highly rated, but you have to wonder if the Dickerson deal skewed the “ask” for some of the high schoolers.

    KW

    19 Aug 24 at 7:10 pm

  9. That said, why do teams bid so high? There are only 11.5 scholarships per NCAA team, so guys turning down the pro money aren’t going to get a “full ride.” If you don’t take the pro deal, the parents are committing to paying at least half the freight for three years of college (in addition to the tens of thousands that they’ve already spent on travel ball). NIL money will move the needle a little, and it’s said to have been a factor in William Schmidt staying with his LSU commitment this year. But with his projected draft position, Schmidt likely could have gotten at least $4M. That’s probably more than the full NIL pot that LSU has for everyone. (Most NIL money is going to football and men’s basketball, although the collective at my alma mater was recently holding a baseball-specific fund-raising event.)

    Frankly, it would make sense for the MLB to rethink some things, though. The contraction of the minors is making it more difficult to properly develop high school signees (hello Elijah Green and Brenner Cox, among others). Also, teams assume a massive amount of risk with high school picks, due to struggles with the game (Green), or injury (Denaburg), or both (Kieboom), not to mention taking on what’s often a very long developmental time line (Souza, Taylor, Andrew Perkins, etc.).

    Since collegians can be paid directly now, why shouldn’t MLB cut a deal with the major conferences to spread money to the schools to cover player “signing” and development? Each MLB team contributing $10M to a pot would provide $5M a year to 60 schools. Of course there’s nothing that would keep them from cutting a deal just with the SEC, or SEC, ACC, and Big 12 — generally the best baseball conferences.

    KW

    19 Aug 24 at 7:32 pm

  10. The Los Angeles Angels signed High Schooler Trey Gregory-Alford in the 11th rounder to a $1,957,500 contract. The bonus set an MLB record for an 11th-round selection and was roughly the slot value assigned to the No. 47 overall pick in the draft.
    Agree with Will the Mets not even make an offer to Jelkin is bad. Not getting a comp pick is bad.

    HMG

    19 Aug 24 at 8:07 pm

  11. For those with an Athletic subscription, here’s an interesting piece on the Pirates and the possibility of shutting down Skenes, mostly for service-time manipulation by trying to have him not place in the top two of ROY voting:

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5708546/2024/08/19/pirates-paul-skenes-rookie-shut-down-service/

    Blessedly, there’s no mention of the Stras shutdown.

    KW

    20 Aug 24 at 8:30 am

  12. Keith Law has written about the Trout draft a lot, b/c lots of people are like, “how did all these teams miss on Trout?” This was a slightly different time in the sport, where cold weather players really were looked down upon and the showcase circuit really hadn’t blown up yet. Trout was almost a complete unknown even to scouts as a HS junior, got some awareness when he went to Area Codes/Perfect Game … but the fact that he played in New Jersey really worked against him.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26864123/draft-heist-century-how-mike-trout-fell-angels

    Todd Boss

    20 Aug 24 at 9:33 am

  13. KW: did you see that NCAA is drastically raising scholarship limits in college baseball?

    https://d1baseball.com/ncaa/college-baseballs-golden-age-receives-another-jolt-with-more-scholarships-nearing/

    They’re going to 34 scholarships. I think this, plus NIL opportunities at the biggest schools (SEC/ACC) will definitely change the drafting strategy of the sport.

    Todd Boss

    20 Aug 24 at 9:35 am

  14. If they succeed in shutting down Skenes for service time reasons, the union will go absolutely ballistic. Honestly I can’t see why Pittsburgh would even try it: their reasoning would be to cost him ROY votes; um, the dude was the all star game starter; he’s going to win the damn ROY. No sane voter would not vote for him. So he’s gonna get a full year of service time; these are the terms teams agreed to in the latest CBA and Pittsburgh should abide by it. Pittsburgh screwed themselves with the timing of the call-up and won’t be eligible for the PPI pick either.

    I mean, honestly, i have no sympathy for that team. They’re poorly run, they don’t deserve to have a star like Skenes, they don’t spend money, and they’ve squandered decades of one of the best parks in the majors.

    Todd Boss

    20 Aug 24 at 9:39 am

  15. Agree on the Pirates. The union should go ballistic that the idea is even being floated. Now, if I were the Pirates, I would absolutely shut Skenes down at 120% of his 2023 innings. They’re not in contention, so there’s no reason to risk the fate of the Verducci Effect. LSU rode Skenes quite hard in 2023 as it was. But he’ll still win MVP unless Merrill goes berserk in the stretch run.

    College baseball scholarship expansion is LONG overdue. A 34-player roster limit should also help spread some of the talent around a bit more too, as does free movement in the portal. You’re not going to see as many guys like Lipscomb anymore who really didn’t play much until they were seniors.

    KW

    20 Aug 24 at 12:52 pm

  16. I don’t think that Skenes is the absolute slam dunk NL ROY, only because Jackson Merill has also been great. Skenes gets the press and has more bWAR, but Merrill is lifting SD into the playoffs and has more fWAR. But since automatic one year of service time goes to the top TWO ROY finishers, that’s moot.

    John C.

    20 Aug 24 at 2:17 pm

  17. Love the content here.

    Agree with John C that Jackson Merrill is on a heater and gaining NL ROY monmentum. In the betting markets, Skenes was a prohibitive betting favorite in the NL ROY race until the last few weeks. Now, Skenes and Merrill are close to even (Skenes is still the favorite, but it’s getting tight).

    The race is close enough that if the Pirates shut down Skenes, and Merrill continues to rake, Merrill would win the ROY, and Skenes service time would not be accelerated.

    Apart from the service time issue associated with ROY, have no problem with the Pirates shutting down Skenes.

    In 2021, Skenes threw 34 innings including the Cape League.

    In 2022, Skenes threw 85 innings.

    In 2023, Skenes threw 132 innings.

    This year, not counting Spring Training, Skenes has 125 innings (adding in ST, he’s close to 140). His velocity has dipped a little, and the Pirates are out of it. If Skenes starts two more times in August Skenes will be pushing 150+ innings.

    What is the point of pitching Skenes deep into September with no benefit and enhanced risk?

    Pilchard

    20 Aug 24 at 2:30 pm

  18. One other thing that may change the equation a little is he advent of NIL money in college athletics, even college baseball. Assessing the signing verus college choice is no longer MLB bonus money now versus future MLB bonus money.

    It’s MLB bonus money verus future-MLB bonus money+college NIL money.

    Mike Rizzo talked about this today on the Junkies: he said NIL deals for college baseball players are now a factor in signability.

    When the Coastal Carolina coach retired this season, he talked about how SEC schools have seven figure baseball NIL budgets, making it impossible for smaller schools to keep their best players.

    As for Levonas, WF does a have a solid NIL kitty themselves (a former WF baseball player made it big in the real estate market); while Levonas isn’t getting anything close to $3 million to play for WF next year; it’s fair to assume he’s getting six figures on top of all of the other benefits. Guessing that NIL money also played some minor role in Levonas’s decision to reject the Brewers offer.

    Pilchard

    21 Aug 24 at 12:50 pm

  19. I notice that I said MVP for Skenes but of course meant ROY. And yes, it should be Skenes/Merrill 1-2 in some order, so the Bucs would seem to be losing that year of service time no matter what, plus Skenes certainly will qualify for Super Two (which the Nats presumably will avoid with Wood).

    I wonder if Merrill was completely off the table in the Soto trade talks, or if the Nats were just eager to get guys like Gore and Abrams who were more ready for the majors.

    KW

    21 Aug 24 at 2:29 pm

  20. Here is a link to an article on the Padres top prospects heading into the 2022 season: https://www.mlb.com/news/padres-top-30-prospects-list-2022-preseason

    The top 5 prospects were:

    1. CJ Abrams
    2. Robert Hassell
    3. Luis Campusano
    4. McKenzie Gore
    5. James Wood

    So, the Nats got 4 of the top 5 prospects for Soto. Merrill was a late first round pick in 2021, and played Rookie League in 2021 and to start 2022 before moving up to the A Ball California League. Merrill first appeared on the top 100 prospect lists before the 2023 season. So, not sure where Merrill was rated at the beginning of August 2022. Pretty amazing he made it the to majors ahead of Wood and Hassell.

    Anonymous

    21 Aug 24 at 3:04 pm

  21. Was Merrill’s name on the table in the Soto deal? I’d be surprised if it were not. But it’s not like they could have dropped Hassell and added Merrill. Would you give Wood AND A COUPLE OF OTHER GUYS up off of that deal to get Merrill?

    It’s also possible that if the Nats had pushed too hard for Merrill AND Wood (plus one of some combination of Gore, Abrams, and Susana) that the whole deal falls apart, or ends up with a lesser prospect package. Although I get the temptation to “what if?” in hindsight, I sincerely doubt that the Nats could have done better in that deal.

    John C.

    21 Aug 24 at 3:06 pm

  22. Merrill and ROY: i think he suffers from “West coast journalist syndrome.” He plays a lot of his games after a large majority of east coast journalists have gone to bed. Nearly every Skenes start is on prime-time EST so he gets more eyeballs.

    Todd Boss

    21 Aug 24 at 3:31 pm

  23. JohnC: I don’t think the nats could have done better either.

    Reminder: MacKenzie Gore, Robert Hassell III, C.J. Abrams, James Wood, Jarlin Susana, Luke Voit for Soto & Bell.

    That’s now turned into a #3 starter, our starting SS and All star rep, Our starting OF/#1 prospect in the sport … and then whatever you make of Hassell and Susana right now. Hassell is losing prospect shine thanks to multiple injuries but is still a 23yr old repeating AA with decent numbers. Susana has really blown up this year and is now on the fringes of top 100 lists.

    that’s such an amazing haul. 3 members of the core 14 now, 1 projecting that way, 1 possibly still in the mix.

    Todd Boss

    21 Aug 24 at 3:35 pm

  24. I do remember there being some discussion of Merrill among the chatters at the time. Many seemed to think that the Nats had done better to get Hassell included in the deal instead of Merrill. We absolutely forget how highly ranked Hassell was at the time. He’s been the one real disappointment from the deal thus far.

    But yes, all in all, it was a franchise-redefining deal, which it absolutely needed to be. Wood by himself may end up being worth the price of admission. Abrams is still just 23 and hasn’t reached his peak. Gore at times has top-of-the-rotation stuff but is still maddeningly inconsistent. Susana is back on track after a rough 2023 and could have a ceiling higher than Gore’s.

    KW

    22 Aug 24 at 12:47 pm

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